Horse Country


Subject: Re: X-country transportation
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 13:27:16 GMT

>I know I'll have to have Coggins tests done and my
>horses will need Flu/Rhino/Strangles and Potomac Fever
>shots.  Anything else I need to vaccinate for?  (They're
>up to date on their 4-ways.)
...
>Anne Marchant

Anne,
	For most parts of the East Coast, you'll also want a rabies
vaccine.  Although horses aren't usually in line for transmission of
rabies (they don't usually get bitten by raccoons, etc.), the current
epidemic is so extreme that vets are advising horse owners to vaccinate.
(The epidemic just hit southern New Hamshire.  Over half the raccoons
found dead on the road in my town autopsied positive for rabies.  The
cute little orphan raccoon baby we fed at the barn last year would
have been considered a threat to the horses this year....)


Kathy Wilber
att!mvp03!Kw


From: ESRLCAC@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Colleen Carlton)
Subject: Re: X-country transportation
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1993 07:44
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office

I have used First Class Equine to transport a horse from Northern
Calif. to Southern California, and was very pleased with their
service.  $1000 per horse to move cross country sounds kind of high,
but it's been some time since I've priced any long-distance hauls.
Another company I've used was Hubbard Horse Transport
... I think they do lots of moves for horse racing
folks.  I no longer have their number, but maybe some- one else does.
If no other company can beat the quote from First Class Equine, your
horses will at least be well cared for (from my experience).

Good Luck!
Colleen Carlton (an Arabian Enthusiast)

From: sknopp@vax (KNOPP, SHERRON)
Subject: Re: X-country transportation
Date: 3 Aug 1993 13:59 EDT
Organization: Williams College Center for Computing

I shipped a horse from Vermont to Southern California
and then back again in 1979 and 1980, and used Hubbard.
It cost me just under $1000 each way, and that was 13
years ago, so I don't think $1000 is high.  Care was
excellent.  Blue Chip is even better (imo).

Sherron Knopp
Williamstown, MA
sknopp@williams.bitnet

From: hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah)
Subject: Re: X-country transportation
Date: 3 Aug 93 13:30:05

Sounds like a good idea!

In 1990, I used 

	Bill Egbert Horse Transportation Inc.
	P.O. Box 458;  Enumclaw, WA  98022
	(206) 825-4568; outside WA (800) 426-0862

to move a newly-purchased horse from Sheridan WY to San Francisco CA.
I was reasonably happy with the service they gave---it took 3 weeks to
arrange pickup, but then the horse was in transit a mere 3 days, one
of which was layover in Seattle.  Egbert's driver was nice,
knowledgeable, and communicative; they are ICC licensed, and use big,
air-ride semis, which give the horse a good ride.  The only flaw I saw
was that they had kept a haynet full of choice alfalfa in front of my
Fjord, which he had pigged out on---he was a smidge "loose" when he
arrived (and a slight ring showed up in his hooves later) from
overeating.  However, he arrived basically healthy and happy; I
wouldn't hesitate to use Egbert again.  However, I understand that
Lexington KY is as far east as they go.

In researching various companies, I found that most of them use a "hub
and spokes" style of scheduling, and the location of the "hub", as
well as which "spokes" the pickup and delivery points are on, can make
major differences in scheduling, transit time, and cost.  For
instance, one of the Colorado Springs companies has all their trucks
fan out to the west, delivering horses, then funnel back into CS,
picking up horses.  When all the trucks get in, they shuffle loads,
and fan out to the east, delivering, etc.  My horse would have laid
over there 3 weeks, because his pickup point was on an east-bound
spoke into CS.  He would have had to wait there while they did all of
the east coast trips, before being put on a west-bound truck on the
next "cycle".  By contrast, with Egbert's Seattle hub, my horse was
picked up on a west-bound spoke and delivered to me on a south-bound
spoke, with only a day of layover between them.  However, the Colorado
Springs companies should work better for a straight east-west trip,
with only a minor layover, waiting for all the other truck-loads to
gather.  I get the impression that the CS folks have several small
trucks, while Egbert has fewer but bigger trucks.  It takes Egbert
longer to dequeue a given pickup, but makes for less layover, waiting
for trucks to come in.

A friend had good results shipping a horse from San Francisco to
Massachusetts via Blue Chip horse transportation.  I'm not sure where
they're located, but they shipped her horse straight through in 3.5
days, and had very competitive prices, with a healthy discount for
paying in advance.

Marsha Jo Hannah		Murphy must have been a horseman--
La Honda, CA			anything that can go wrong, will!

Subject: Re: Companies That Haul Horses?? 
From: poppe@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Miss D C Poppe) 
Date: 17 Jun 1994 17:57:49 GMT

I have used two different companies to ship out of
Northern Vermont. I do not recall the prices, but in the hundreds.

(1) Shipping North-South on the East coast. I used Blue Chip, out of
Massachusetts.  It was in the winter, and although I never got my bell
boots back, my New Zeland rug arrived, and in the same condition!  This
I consider good performance. The rig arrived on time both pick-up and
drop off.  The horse travelled to Boston, then overnighted there, and
travelled to N. Carolina with other horses the next day.

(2) Shipping East-West. Nationwide. Again excellent, prompt service.
Even got the bell boots. As was arranged beforehand, the horse travelled
Vt to Colorado, then stayed there a couple days waiting for other horses,
then travelled on to L.A.

Hope this information is useful, Both companies have had ads in the
Chronicle, or in Practical Horseman before.  Both horses were good shippers,
arrived apparently content and continued to be good to ship.

Subject: Re: ADVICE NEEDED:  Commercial Haulers
From: mkaufman@mtholyoke.edu (Melinda Kaufman)
Date: 12 Oct 1994 01:04:45 GMT

Well, I've shipped horse multiple times from California to
Massachusetts with a company out of Colorado called All-State.
They stop for several days in Colorado to regroup and let the
horses rest. When they are on the road, the stop about every
4 hours to feed and water the horses and let them stand for a
while. It generally took about 10-12 days to get the horses across
the country, but when they got there they were in generally good.
condition. (The only one that wasn't, was a very nervous, highstrung
TB who had never travelled anywhere near that for before...and he
was just a little skinny.)

The guys who drive the trailers (6 horse slant loads) are all
old cowboys. I've never seen any of them beat on a horse, and
some of mine arrived loading better than when they left!
Anyway, their number is 1-800-451-7696

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